Episode 7

Game of Spies



Date: 11/21/23

Who is the real Jason Bourne? Is Jack Ryan real? In this episode we sit down with former director of the CIA, Porter Goss, to take a closer look at the dark side of international espionage.

Dark Arenas

The problem is nobody has an advantage for very long in the intelligence world before the other guy gets it too. So advantages tend to cancel themselves out, but you have to keep up.

Porter Goss